The Table Women Podcast

The Table Ep. 43 - Tour Photographer Maggie London

Sarah and Vic sit down with tour photographer Maggie London to discuss:

• How Maggie discovered her passion for photography and forged her own path 
• Taking charge and learning as you go
• How studying other topics can help you as a creative
• How she turned her passion into a business and learned the industry ropes
• Being the only woman in the pit, diversity, and progress
• What does tour look like for a photographer?
• How gender, race, identity, etc. play a big role in working with artists
• The benefit of having peers who support and connect you
• Evolving into artist development and creative direction
• Where the industry is going now that artists, and fans, are more educated and aware of the good, the bad, and the ugly of the entertainment industry
• And more!

 

Notes:

Maggie: https://maggielndnphoto.com/about

Bonnaroo - https://www.bonnaroo.com/

Photographer Mentioned - https://www.instagram.com/baeth/

Almost Famous - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0181875/

Roadies - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4270458/

Cage the Elephant - https://www.cagetheelephant.com/

Morrison Hotel Gallery NY - https://morrisonhotelgallery.com/

Zoe Clark - https://www.instagram.com/zoeclarkofficial/

The Table Ep. 42 - Music Journalist and Author Marissa Moss

Music Journalist and Author of "Her Country" Marissa Moss sits down with Sarah and Vic to chat all about her career, including:

• How Marissa got her start and where her passion came from
• Coming up in politics and finding her beat in Country Music
• Learning the business of journalism as much as the craft
• How do you actually get paid?!
• Building a catalog of work and a reputation
• Discovering where Country Music Journalism was dropping the ball, and picking it up
• What it looks like to be one of the only women in your field
• What it’s like to get to the heart of an artist and an issue
• Dealing with the eccentricities of the subjects and topics you cover
• Speaking out about difficult and taboo topics
• Hitting roadblocks and pushback
• The story of writing “Her Country” and becoming a published author
• Being a music geek at heart!
• Fighting for diversity and inclusion in journalism and music
• Finding ways to keep going when it feels hopeless
• How the next generation is claiming their place and using their voices

NOTES:

Marissa Moss Website: https://www.marissarmoss.com/

Marissa Publisher Bio: https://us.macmillan.com/author/marissarmoss

Marissa IG: https://www.instagram.com/marissarmoss/

David Unilao “The Filipino Cowboy”: https://www.instagram.com/davidunlayao/

Caitlin Butts: https://www.instagram.com/kaitlinbutts/

 

The Table Ep. 41 - Savanna Leigh on The Enneagram, Mental Health, and Creativity

Pop Artist and Enneagram Coach Savanna Leigh joins Sarah and Vic to chat about how her creativity is influenced by her specialty in the Enneagram and her passion for mental health. Topics include:

• Savanna’s journey from starting in a sister duo to finding her creative voice and identity in pop music
• Moving to Nashville and building a life without her security blanket 
• Finding the right team, which happens to be full of women!
• How 1 college class led her to find a different type of passion in the Enneagram
• COVID and the space to dive in to the Enneagram and mental health 
• Savannah’s journey of creating her own space in the Enneagram world and learning herself
• Emotional growth - going from closed off to self-aware and open
• What is the Enneagram and how does it work?
• What does the Enneagram show you about yourself and how can you use that to your advantage?
• What it looks like to create from a more self-aware space
• Creating with people who are different “types” than you and how it can be a hidden blessing
• Incorporating your passions and not hiding parts of yourself to make others comfortable
• Dealing with pushback, aligning with the right people, and helping others thrive
• And more!

NOTES:

Savanna's Enneagram Site: https://www.leadwithenneagram.com/ 

Listen to the EP: https://ffm.to/savannaleigh-remindersofyou-ep 

Connect with Savanna and her music: https://www.instagram.com/savannaleigh/

https://www.tiktok.com/@savannaleighofficial

https://www.youtube.com/savannaleighofficial 

https://www.savannaleigh.com/ 

The Table Ep. 40 - Dr. Jada Watson on Women in Radio

Dr. Jada Watson returns to The Table Women to chat all about women in radio, including:

• How Jada found her passion for women in radio and later turned that into a career
• The evolution of her path and the history of radio charts
• How radio charts even work!
• Beyoncé, Country Music Radio, and backlash (or not?)
• The power of having data to back up what we experience
• The cost of having access to the facts
• We’re still going backwards for female representation in radio, what’s up?
• Tomato-gate and it’s impact
• History of Country Music and how we ended up here
• There are only ever 3 women “succeeding” at a time - wtf?!
• Barbie, women in pop music, politics, country music - weird connections!
• So how do we fix it?
• Jada’s own experiences with being targeted in retaliation for her work
• Seeing how being armed with information uplifts the next generations
• And more!

Jada’s website and other links:

www.SongData.ca

 

Jada Watson, “‘Diversi’tea’: Spilling the Data on Inclusive Programming.” Presented at Country Radio Seminar, 1 March 2024.

 

Jan Diehm and Jada Watson, “They Won’t Play a Lady-O on Country Radio: Examining Back-to-Back Plays by Gender, Race, and Sexual Orientation.” The Pudding, 22 May 2023.

 

Jada Watson, “Redlining in Country Music 2.0: Representation in the Country Music Industry in 2021 and 2022.” SongData Reports; Ottawa, Ontario, Canada, 17 March 2023.

 

NOTES:

Corb Lund: https://www.corblund.com/

Sarah Harmer: https://sarahharmer.com/

Loretta Lynn: https://lorettalynn.com/

Kitty Wells: https://www.kittywells.com/

Mickey Guyton: https://www.mickeyguyton.com/

Maren Morris: https://www.marenmorris.com/

Beyoncé: https://www.beyonce.com/

Beverly Keel chapter in A Boy Named Sue: Gender and Country Music: https://www.upress.state.ms.us/Books/A/A-Boy-Named-Sue

Lainey Wilson: https://www.laineywilson.com/home?page=1

Women In Music: https://www.womeninmusic.org/get-involved

Tomato-Gate (Keith Hill): https://www.tennessean.com/story/entertainment/music/2015/06/18/tomato-gate-galvanizes-women-country/28936501/

Jingoism: https://www.britannica.com/topic/jingoism

The Chicks: https://thechicks.com/

Robyn Ottolini: https://www.robynottolini.com/

Priscilla Block: https://www.priscillablock.com/

Jada’s Toronto Star Article: https://www.thestar.com/opinion/jason-aldean-s-try-that-is-now-no-1-on-the-charts-that-s-a/article_d88b19c8-5cd3-51b9-af43-fc75f98a5fab.html

Emily Yahr: “Tracy Chapman, Luke Combs and the Complicated Response to ‘Fast Car’.”

Sara Ahmed “Living a Feminist Life”: https://www.jstor.org/stable/j.ctv11g9836

We Belmont: https://www.instagram.com/webelmont/

Rissi Palmer: https://rissipalmermusic.com/

Black Opry: https://www.blackopry.com/

Sasha: https://www.iamsacha.com/

Julie Williams: https://www.thisisjuliewilliams.com/about

Roberta Lea: https://www.iamrobertalea.com/

Joy Oladokun: https://www.joyoladokun.com/

Emma White: https://emmawhite.com/

Kelsea Ballerini: https://www.kelseaballerini.com/Cowboys-Cry-Too

Carly Pearce: https://www.carlypearce.com/#/

Allison Russell: https://allisonrussellmusic.com/

Carter Faith: https://www.carterfaith.com/

 

P.S. We discuss the initial reaction to Beyoncé releasing "Cowboy Carter" including the backlash, or what seemed to be backlash, from Country Music Radio. Sarah and Jada discussed videos online regarding radio stations claiming they won't play the record. We went back and were able to find content on the initial incident discussed, but we're still looking for videos describing other incidents. If you know of any information regarding people/stations being against playing "Cowboy Carter" please reach out and send them our way, we'd love to have them and share them with Jada! 

 

The Table Ep. 39 - Artist Manager Nicolette McCann

Artist Manager at Red Light Management Nicolette McCann joins us to chat about her journey with fellow The Table Women guest, artist BIZZY, and:

• How Nicolette found her niche and tried out different paths
• Small world connections and invisible strings that became the perfect launching pad for success
• The magic of being new and independent as a manager and an artist
• The growing pains of developing your career and navigating a relationship with your artists
• What it looks like trying to take an artist from viral to sustainable
• Navigating taking a career to the next level, personal vs. professional relationships, and more
• Knowing when to jump on board or leave an opportunity behind
• Getting started managing - where and how to begin 
• Advice for artists, wannabe managers, and personal philosophies
• And more!

Red Light Management: https://www.redlightmanagement.com/ 

Nicolette: https://www.instagram.com/nicolettemccann/ 

BIZZY: https://www.srryimbizzy.com/about 

Cousin Simple: https://www.cousinsimple.com/ 

 

The Table Ep. 38 - Going Viral & Building a Career with BIZZY

Viral artist and songwriter joins us to chat about:

BIZZY’s journey from wanting to be behind the song to on the stage

Going to school and taking a chance that launched her career

Going viral and turning it into a sustainable career

Finding the right career and team 

What is tour like?!

The growing pains of being a young woman in music

Writing your authentic truth

How she deals with social media, having an audience, and haters 

Staying grounded and sane

Dealing with fair-weather friends, success, and trusting your gut

Very important views on pickles 

 

Notes:

Website: https://www.srryimbizzy.com/ 

Newest Release "When It Ends": https://open.spotify.com/track/1SOtN3lFMTNKrZQXDB1Ee8 

Tik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@srryimbizzy 

The Table Ep. 37 - Outlaw Love with Artist-Songwriter Brooke Eden

We're back with season 4! Country Artist and Songwriter Brooke Eden sits down at the table to discuss her journey from playing hometown honkytonks to major stages, getting signed, the struggle of finding her voice, her love story with wife Hilary, coming out, and more!

 

Notes:

Brooke Eden: https://www.brookeeden.com/welcome/

BMG: https://www.bmg.com/us

Outlaw Love Album: https://brookeeden.lnk.to/OutlawLoveWE

“Outlaw Love” Music Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzskBIMVKT8

“All My Love” Music Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bv2QMboZ_Lc

Ty Herndon: https://www.tyherndon.com/

Chely Wright: https://www.chely.com/

The Worst Witch: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0092239/

The Table Ep. 36 - Where Have We Been?! Mini Catch-Up with Sarah and Vic

We're back! After time away Sarah and Vic discuss where they've been, what's been going on, and what's coming up, as well as sharing and answering the new rapid-fire questions!

 

Notes:

"When It Ends" by BIZZY: https://open.spotify.com/track/1SOtN3lFMTNKrZQXDB1Ee8?si=5wZvEivSS1eTlRG0wMmaPg&nd=1&dlsi=ccf2edbd08a74b14 

Asleep At Last - Atlas Enneagram for Enneagram 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HM5Hqq2P2Y

Soul contract book, "Journey of Souls": https://www.amazon.com/Journey-Souls-Studies-Between-Lives/dp/1567184855 

 

The Table Ep. 35 - Management and A&R - Sarah Stickle

Sarah and Vic sit down with Management and A&R at Born & Raised Entertainment and TwentySeven Music Publishing Sarah Stickle to discuss:

• Finding your niche and using varied experience to your advantage
• The satisfaction of seeing things through start to finish, and celebrating your wins!
• Diversity in the industry and how it varies from location, genre, and area of the industry
• How underpaying songwriters is a feminist issue
• How gender roles and capitalism make it harder to create change
• Performative allyship - Are the changes we’re seeing long-term?
• Being a queer woman in the music industry 
• The intersection of gender, race, and sexuality 
• Advocating for your peers and creators, and helping others do the same
• The difference in community and creativity between Nashville and LA
• The importance of having peers and a team that fights for you

 

Notes:

Jason Bernard - https://variety.com/2018/music/news/pulse-music-group-jason-bernard-1203021768/ 

Kobalt - https://www.kobaltmusic.com/ 

 

Some of Sarah’s recent wins and artists/songs discussed:

• Signing Brian Brundage for management (Tai Verdes' "A-O-K", Rhys Lewis, Maddie Zahm)
• Cuts she helped to secure:
  • 44Phantom ft. Machine Gun Kelly single "don't sleep, repeat"
  • Hayley Kiyoko's "for the girls" - which was also featured in the new Netflix film Do Revenge 
  • Sofia Carson's "Loud"
• Procured the mix for Kane Brown's single "Grand" (mixed by Adam Hawkins)
• Ryan Daly - The new John Legend single "Wonder Woman", the forthcoming Fitz & The Tantrums album, and the current DNCE single

The Table Ep. 34 - What’s up with Gen Z & Social Media?

Sarah and Vic discuss the gap in understanding between older generations and Gen Z, and Social media, via first-person concerns gathered anonymously from college students, listeners, and viral artists.  

Topics include:

What happens when the gatekeepers try to jump on the bandwagon

Trusting your creative “gut” over trends and views

What happens if you hit it big and fall off?

Do views and aesthetic decide the quality of the content?

Speed VS. Quality 

Gen Z doesn’t give a fuck about your status quo - the standard was never for us

How old structures like labels can hold you back in the age of viral content

Overexposure and how the industry corrects

Authenticity is king - and Gen Z can spot it better than anybody 

Scandals, cancel culture, and post Me Too accountability

The pressure to be famous and always have a take

Is the next phase of the tech age no tech?

Viral content, evolving trends, and societal “correctness”

The importance of mental health and having to face our faults

How seemingly small social trends influence world events

 

Mentioned creators:

Idiocracy: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0387808/ 

Loveless “Unholy” Cover: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/TdKWSlEXyaI 

Katie Gregson-MacLeod - complex (demo): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvbKTeuxHVI 

Sam Smith “Unholy”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uq9gPaIzbe8 

Try Guys: https://www.youtube.com/c/tryguys